Unix is user friendly, its just selective about who its friends are.
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MathCad isn't Microsoft product, but it is designed for Microsoft Windows...can you tell me analog of this product, and Visio too, for *nix systems? i've say about full-functional programs (not Open Office Draw and Math, they're not so functional, as MathCad and Visio) спорить в интернете -- это как олимпиада для дебилов, даже если победил, все равно -- дебил (с)
can you tell me analog of this product, and Visio too,
As it is concerned for this functionality exactly,I can't. But I hope it exists. Anyway, u can use Maple or Matlab or Octave for your mathematical needs. I'm not a programmer or project manager, so I don't need apps like MS Visio. Anyway, try using Kivio (http://www.osalt.com/visio)
As it is concerned for this functionality exactly,I can't. But I hope it exists. Anyway, u can use Maple or Matlab or Octave for your mathematical needs. I'm not a programmer or project manager, so I don't need apps like MS Visio. Anyway, try using Kivio
offcourse, but as i wrote higer
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в универе закумарили - понимаш, Визио и Маткад входят в курс обучения...
i want to say, that this products is included in University Education Program (THIS products, not else :)), so i can't use only *nix systems, i need Windows, or i'll don't execute UEP :))) спорить в интернете -- это как олимпиада для дебилов, даже если победил, все равно -- дебил (с)
I've just installed Kivio and it turned out that it can save a document as XML file. So I'm sure that there is a way to convert Kivio file into Visio and vice versa
o, and one more - if Kivio is like Kylix (as Borland say - Delphi for Linux), i don't want use it :)... as i've see before - every product, which design as "linux equivalent" suck :).. it's my IMHO ))) спорить в интернете -- это как олимпиада для дебилов, даже если победил, все равно -- дебил (с)
I've just installed Kivio and it turned out that it can save a document as XML file. So I'm sure that there is a way to convert Kivio file into Visio and vice versa smile
Visio have closed file format, cause sources of Visio is close .. without sources and file format it's very hard to convert file from one format to another
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Suckin' KDE! angry
use GNOME PS i think, that it'll became my "visit card" спорить в интернете -- это как олимпиада для дебилов, даже если победил, все равно -- дебил (с)
I haven't seen Kylix (God blessed me ) and I also haven't work in Visio and I also do not feel good about OOffice. But it's free and u can make it better Anyway, you have to use MS at work if u work for MS. Just like I have to use Acronis despite I hate their software In my institute I'm free to use any software. The study is not about particular software but mostly about concepts. Having studied concepts, you can easily master any tool for your work.
The study is not about particular software but mostly about concepts
no, my lecturer demand to use EXACTLY Visio (one more example - ve must use ONLY C in programming... i've been forbidden to use even C++)... so, you is very lucky, that you can use any software спорить в интернете -- это как олимпиада для дебилов, даже если победил, все равно -- дебил (с)
it's another case: C and C++ are really different and it's nothin' about different tools. Moreover, if you're dealing with Linux Kernel programming, you must either write in C or Assembler, not Delphy or any other PHP It's good and natural. You're just free to use your favourite compiller. But if you cave to learn proprietary software when there is a free analog it's evident that you're required to depend on the software manufacturer.
ok, Jeka, tnx for good disscussion, but i think that we must to stop it, cause tomorrow 'll came many peoples, which want to speak serious themes, and only in russian, so, we can get some agriness from their side спорить в интернете -- это как олимпиада для дебилов, даже если победил, все равно -- дебил (с)
Как проходила эволюция? Какая-нибудь особенно дурная, но решительная креветка, пыхтя и отдуваясь, впервые вылезла из моря на необжитую сушу. И заявила: "Йа чилавег!"